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Post by GR5435 Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:41 am

Dear all,
My recently aquired '98 Pollensa made it all the way to east coast Spain with all equipment on board working perfectly well (apart from bonnet catch release, but with the wife and daughter pushing down on the bonnet proir to release she's opening fine). I managed to forget my wagons handbook so I'm not entirely confident with my tyre pressure guesstimate 50 front 60 rear. I've tried searching the net but cannot find anything specific for my van. If anyone has a handbook handy it would be very much appreciated if the could post the correct pressures.

Thanks in advance from sunny 'Tossa de Mar'

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Post by Paulmold Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:15 am

I have found this post on another forum which may help you ....





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Hi everyone,

I have a '53' Autosleeper Pollensa on a Peugeot Boxer (2.0) base. I enquired for tyre pressures at Autosleeper in March this year. The tyres are Michelin X radials 215/70 R150C XC Camping.

I got an Email reply from Charles Trevelyan at Autosleeper Service Department who recommended:

Front - 59 psi Rear - 65 psi

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Post by GR5435 Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:49 am

Many Thanks for the speedy reply...

Kind Regards

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Post by gonromin Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:59 am

Hi,
The peugeot Boxer handbook, states 60psi front. 65 psi rear. (depending which Boxer model).
I find 59 psi front gives a slightly smoother / better ride. Rear 64 psi with or without towing a car trailer with small car loaded. However with a scooter on the rear scooter rack, ( trailer Not attached ) I find 65psi on the rear tyres is better as there is more weight on the rear / over hang.

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Post by peglegjack Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:30 pm

I have recently bought a 1997 Peugot Boxer Executive 2.5L 2 berth. Tyres feel a bit hard. Front 60psi. Rear 70psi. No clear information on tyre pressures. Boxer hand book recommends 47psi front
68.8 rear for vans. No mention anywhere about camper vans. Any suggestions?
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Post by Gromit Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:55 pm

Strewth Gren - you must have a very sensitive bum if you can detect a 1 psi difference!! lol4 

Cymro did a lot of research on this and posted some very useful data, including (if I recall) a fairly comprehensive chart. I'll have a search for it later if he doesn't notice this thread and join in.

For what it's worth, I run ours at 60/70 after playing around a bit. I would rather have them a bit too hard than too soft, for fear of overheating on a fast(ish) run. (Not that I ever go much above 60mph in the van.)

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Post by gonromin Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:59 pm

Gromit wrote:Strewth Gren - you must have a very sensitive bum if you can detect a 1 psi difference!! lol4 

Cymro did a lot of research on this and posted some very useful data, including (if I recall) a fairly comprehensive chart. I'll have a search for it later if he doesn't notice this thread and join in.

For what it's worth, I run ours at 60/70 after playing around a bit. I would rather have them a bit too hard than too soft, for fear of overheating on a fast(ish) run. (Not that I ever go much above 60mph in the van.)

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Hi Gromit,  Ah yes I was a motorcycle tyre tester in a previous life so you are correct on the very sensitive bum / you have to have  feel as at times your life depended on it !

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Post by mikethebike Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:26 pm

peglegjack wrote:I have recently bought a 1997 Peugot Boxer Executive 2.5L 2 berth. Tyres feel a bit hard. Front 60psi. Rear 70psi. No clear information on tyre pressures. Boxer hand book recommends 47psi front
68.8 rear for vans. No mention anywhere about camper vans. Any suggestions?
Hi Welcome to the forum.

To get your tyre pressures you need to weigh your motorhome loaded as used.
Then look on our tyre chart with your tyre sizes and axle weights.
70 sounds high  to me.

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Post by fenderbender Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:26 pm

Hi,i think boxer handbook gives pressures for a fully loaded commercial van, my 97'symphony 2.5d works out at 48psi front and 44psi rear for the tyres fitted and axle weight. As Micky says i would say 60 to 70 psi is too high, enough to give a harsh ride and possibly loosen tooth fillings. I would certainly get the van on a weighbridge.

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Post by Cymro Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:22 pm

Gromit wrote:Cymro did a lot of research on this and posted some very useful data, including (if I recall) a fairly comprehensive chart. I'll have a search for it later if he doesn't notice this thread and join in.
 Thanks, Dave.
 
Fenderbender: The upshot was this: you really must get your axles weighed, with your full touring load on board. Once you know those values, then get from your tyre manufacturer (by email enquiry if necessary) their table showing what pressure YOUR tyres should be (front and rear) for YOUR front and rear axle loads. 

My table was for Continental Vanco Camper tyres of my wheels' size. I can re-post it if you have those tyres (or a quick search will find it).

But it's the above procedure which is important.

(For what it's worth, Dave and I have the same vehicle - 2015 Nuevo ES - but my loading may well be different from his because different bikes / paraphnelia / ride preferences / my bulk etc. I run my tyres at 55 / 75 psi.
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Post by merv Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:58 pm

Interesting what you run your tyres at.  I have a 2103 Nuevo EK.  
I emailed Continental with the maximum axle loads and my actual loads and their recommendation was 58/73 psi.  Similar to what's been stated above.
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Post by Dave 418 Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:07 pm

scratch head The issue of tyre pressures has me thinking. When we bought the Rienza I thought the tyres seemed a bit soft. Thirty PSI front, Fifty PSI rear. The tyres are Vanco 215/75/16C-113R and from what I can work out the pressures should be Fifty PSI Front , Sixty PSI rear. This is a big difference are these pressures correct or have I miss calculated some thing.
 We ran the Duetto, a lighter van, with Fifty PSI all round with no adverse effects. shrugg
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Post by mikethebike Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:43 am

Dave 418 wrote:scratch head The issue of tyre pressures has me thinking. When we bought the Rienza I thought the tyres seemed a bit soft. Thirty PSI front, Fifty PSI rear. The tyres are Vanco 215/75/16C-113R and from what I can work out the pressures should be Fifty PSI Front , Sixty PSI rear. This is a big difference are these pressures correct or have I miss calculated some thing.
 We ran the Duetto, a lighter van, with Fifty PSI all round with no adverse effects. shrugg
Hi Dave.  If you give me your axle weights i will check your recommended pressures for you.
They look like 1700 front and 2000 rear from your pressure readings.
Thats a heavy van!

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Post by Gromit Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:54 am

merv wrote:Interesting what you run your tyres at.  I have a 2103 Nuevo EK.  
I emailed Continental with the maximum axle loads and my actual loads and their recommendation was 58/73 psi.  Similar to what's been stated above.
I lied earlier!!

Not deliberately - senility again! Whistle1

I also got in touch with Messrs Continental after Cymro's excellent research, and they told me the same as they told Merv. So I run our Nuevo EK at 60/75 - not 60/70 as stated earlier. blushes

The end kitchen plus a couple of electric bikes means the rear axle is never far from its maximum loading, and we don't find the ride too bad - until we hit a dead policeman a bit too fast! Those little semi circular ones are the worst, and I sometimes wish we still had a caravan. At least you can't hear your crockery smashing!! sensored1

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Post by Dave 418 Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:11 am

studying Hi Mike, The handbook for this van is a bit of a mess. I got the ring binder and a pile of loose pages. After a morning of filing everything in order I now have a readable manual.
 Right it says "Front in running order1347", "Rear in running order 1565"." MPLM Front 1600," MPLM Rear 2300". This seems less than I expected. think_smiley_46
 With the amount of locker space we have left I cant see us getting any were near its maximum. When I test the brakes on buses we used to recon on 75kg per passenger plus driver. Most of drivers were twice that weight, not forgetting suitcases if it was a coach. scratch head
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Post by mikethebike Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:34 am

Hi Dave. Why these tyre pressure questions come up very often is because there is no one answer.!!
Books and stickers are possible only the maximum figures.
As i have said the only sure way is weighing the 2 axles and then using the actual tyre figures that you have fitted.
Tyres are not that simple you must have the full spec.
ie      215/75/r16c-113  for instance.
I use the Continental chart that we have in the factsheets. 

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Post by Dave 418 Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:03 pm

up! Thanks mike I am going for 45/60 and see how it handles. I am heading for new tyres in the spring before we do any proper millage . We had a contract tyre fitter at the bus depot, the fitters took the safest route and told him to check the pressures. Double wheels underinflated caused a lot of problems even a fire on one occasion. tap_fingers
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